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How would you explain the "Cloward and Pivin" Strategy to take over America to a child?

December 2nd, 2010

Child in High School.

First proposed in 1966 and named after Columbia University sociologists Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven, the “Cloward-Piven Strategy” seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic Wire Transfer The Bank Of Southern Connecticut collapse.

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Why did this question receive a violation…?

November 4th, 2010

I asked if the following could, and or is happening…

* Strategy for forcing political change through orchestrated crisis

First proposed in 1966 and named after Columbia University sociologists Richard Andrew Cloward and his wife Frances Fox Piven (today Piven is an honorary chair for the Democratic Socialists of America), the "Cloward-Piven Strategy" seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse.

Inspired by the August 1965 riots in the black district of Watts in Los Angeles (which erupted after police had used batons to subdue a black man suspected of drunk driving), Cloward and Piven published an article titled "The Weight of the Poor: A Strategy to End Poverty" in the May 2, 1966 issue of The Nation. Following its publication, The Nation sold an unprecedented 30,000 reprints. Activists were abuzz over the so-called "crisis strategy" or "Cloward-Piven Strategy," as it came to be called. Many were eager to put it into effect.

In their 1966 article, Cloward and Piven charged that the ruling classes used welfare to weaken the poor; that by providing a social safety net, the rich doused the fires of rebellion. Poor people can advance only when "the rest of society is afraid of them," Cloward told The New York Times on September 27, 1970. Rather than placating the poor with government hand-outs, wrote Cloward and Piven, activists should work to sabotage and destroy the welfare system; the collapse of the welfare state would ignite a political and financial crisis that would rock the nation; poor people would rise in revolt; only then would "the rest of society" accept their demands.

The key to sparking this rebellion would be to expose the inadequacy of the welfare state. Cloward-Piven’s early promoters cited radical organizer Saul Alinsky as their inspiration. "Make the enemy live up to their (sic) own book of rules," Alinsky wrote in his 1972 book Rules for Radicals. When pressed to honor every word of every law and statute, every Judaeo-Christian moral tenet, and every implicit promise of the liberal social contract, human agencies inevitably fall short. The system’s failure to "live up" to its rule book can then be used to discredit it altogether, and to replace the capitalist "rule book" with a socialist one.

The authors noted that the number of Americans subsisting on welfare — about 8 million, at the time — probably represented less than half the number who were technically eligible for full benefits. They proposed a "massive drive to recruit the poor onto the welfare rolls." Cloward and Piven calculated that persuading even a fraction of potential welfare recipients to demand their entitlements would bankrupt the system. The result, they predicted, would be "a profound financial and political crisis" that would unleash "powerful forces … for major economic reform at the national level."

Their article called for "cadres of aggressive organizers" to use "demonstrations to create a climate of militancy." Intimidated by threats of black violence, politicians would appeal to the federal government for help. Carefully orchestrated media campaigns, carried out by friendly, leftwing journalists, would float the idea of "a federal program of income redistribution," in the form of a guaranteed living income for all — working and non-working people alike. Local officials would clutch at this idea like drowning men to a lifeline. They would apply pressure on Washington to implement it. With every major city erupting into chaos, Washington would have to act.

This was an example of what are commonly called Trojan Horse movements — mass movements whose outward purpose seems to be providing material help to the downtrodden, but whose real objective is to draft poor people into service as revolutionary foot soldiers; to mobilize poor people en masse to overwhelm government agencies with a flood of demands beyond the capacity of those agencies to meet. The flood of demands was calculated to break the budget, jam the bureaucratic gears into gridlock, and bring the system crashing down. Fear, turmoil, violence and economic collapse would accompany such a breakdown — providing perfect conditions for fostering radical change. That was the theory.

Cloward and Piven recruited a militant black organizer named George Wiley to lead their new movement. In the summer of 1967, Wiley founded the National Welfare Rights Organization (NWRO). His tactics closely followed the recommendations set out in Cloward and Piven’s article. His followers invaded welfare offices across the United States — often violently — bullying social workers and loudly demanding every penny to which the law "entitled" them. By 1969, NWRO claimed a dues-paying membership of 22,500 families, with 523 chapters across the nation.

Regarding Wiley’s tactics, The New York Times commented on Sept

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What does Saul Alinski have to do with the NVRA?

November 2nd, 2010

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/1010/ahlert.php3

The voter registration movement was one of the pet projects of two Columbia University sociologists named Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven. If those names ring a bell, perhaps it’s because they are also the authors of the "Cloward-Piven Strategy," a plan designed to destroy capitalism by overloading government with impossible demands as a means of fomenting economic crisis and eventual collapse. And who did both men cite as their "inspiration?"

Community organizer Saul Alinsky. The same Saul Alinsky who wrote "Rules For Radicals," and whose Marxist theories were taught in a series of workshops–by the president of the United States, Barack Obama.

The Act makes it harder to verify the identity of voters seeking to register. It also considerably complicated the states’ task of keeping the registration rolls clean. For example, to remove a voter who has moved from the rolls of a voting district, the local jurisdiction has two choices. First, they could get written confirmation of the move from the citizen. Lacking that, the jurisdiction had to send a notice to the voter. If the notice card was not returned and the person did not vote in two general elections for Federal office after the notice was sent, then the jurisdiction could remove their name from the rolls."

"The cost of these mailings is significant. In Indiana, for example, such a mailing would have a price tag of about million or about twice the Election Division’s entire annual budget (emphasis mine). Given this price tag and the limited resources of most local election boards, we should not be surprised that the registration rolls throughout the nation are enormously inaccurate. In some counties, election administrators report, the voting roll numbers are bigger than the voting-age population."

In short, the objective is to overwhelm the system, and the only entity with the ability to put a stop to these and other attempts to commit voter fraud is the Voting Rights Section of United States Department of Justice.
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If this "passes" what's next in the Cloward/Piven playbook?

September 6th, 2010

As I’m sure Obama assured Rep Luis Guiterrez, the next step is Amnesty for Illegals. Do the math folks. If 20 Million illegals are magically transformed into citizens…then allowed to import their family members in the name of "compassion" what’s that get you? A conservative estimate would be 60 MILLION or more!

The Cloward/Piven Strategy is named after Columbia University sociologists Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven. Their goal is to overthrow capitalism by overwhelming the government bureaucracy with entitlement demands. The created crisis provides the impetus to bring about radical political change.

Is Amnesty for Illegals the next step in the playbook?

"We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America!" – Barack Obama

For the record I opposed this when Bush, McCain, and Graham were pushing it. In fact nearly 85% of the country did. Now we’ll see just how blind Obama’s followers are.
Think about this people. 60 Million is the population of Texas and California COMBINED!

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Have you heard of the Cloward-Piven strategy?

July 20th, 2010

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6967

"First proposed in 1966 and named after Columbia University sociologists Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven, the "Cloward-Piven Strategy" seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse.

This was an example of what are commonly called Trojan Horse movements — mass movements whose outward purpose seems to be providing material help to the downtrodden, but whose real objective is to draft poor people into service as revolutionary foot soldiers; to mobilize poor people en masse to overwhelm government agencies with a flood of demands beyond the capacity of those agencies to meet. The flood of demands was calculated to break the budget, jam the bureaucratic gears into gridlock, and bring the system crashing down. Fear, turmoil, violence and economic collapse would accompany such a breakdown — providing perfect conditions for fostering radical change. That was the theory.

This a Strategy for forcing political change through orchestrated crisis."

As Rahm Emanuel says, "You never let a serious crisis go to waste."

Can this be applied to either ruling party?

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is Obama a Socialist in disguise?

July 14th, 2010

Remember, the financial chaos you are witnessing today in America was not
accidental…

"The Strategy was first elucidated in the May 2, 1966 issue of The Nation
magazine by a pair of radical socialist Columbia University professors, Richard
Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven. David Horowitz summarizes it as, ‘The
strategy of forcing political change through orchestrated crisis. The
"Cloward-Piven Strategy" seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by
overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus
pushing society into crisis and economic collapse.’"

The whole article can be found here:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/barack_obama_and_the_strategy.html

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Have these four presidents (both Bushes, Clinton & Obama) intentionally deploy the Cloward-Pivin Strategy?

June 30th, 2010

The Cloward-Pivin Strategy: “First proposed in 1966 and named after Columbia University sociologists Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven, the “Cloward-Piven Strategy” seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse.” “Cloward-Piven’s early promoters cited radical organizer Saul Allinsky as their inspiration.”

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Are Queen P and Barry instituting the Cloward-Piven Strategy?

June 24th, 2010

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"First proposed in 1966 and named after Columbia University sociologists Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven, the “Cloward-Piven Strategy” seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse."

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Do you believe (especially with the bailouts) the Cloward-Piven Strategy has been put into effect?

June 14th, 2010

"First proposed in 1966 and named after Columbia University sociologists Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven, the “Cloward-Piven Strategy” seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse. "

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Do you ever think this entire financial crisis is actually the Cloward-Piven strategy in play?

May 22nd, 2010

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"First proposed in 1966 and named after Columbia University sociologists Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven, the “Cloward-Piven Strategy” seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse. "

Interesting that not one pro-barry/democrat answered the question, hmmmmmmm

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